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Patching insanity

Hi everybody,

This is not so much a question regarding anything in particular rather about vvvv patching in general. I’ve been playing around with vvvv for a couple of weeks. I’ve done the tutorials and experimented with alot of stuff like pixelshaders and 3d geometry. But when I want to do simple thing like if…then statements I get stuck. And I don’t want to keep bothering folks on the forums with simple stuff like this.

Is it just a matter of getting into the vvvv paradigm and forgetting the other textual programming stuff or are these type of things just harder to do with vvvv? Did I miss something in the tutorials? Did everybody have to go through this learning curve?

It’s really frustrating that I have all this power at the tips of my fingers only to stumble over simple stuff like that.
I’ll stop now, as this is turning into a rant, but please don’t think I’m bashing vvvv, I love it, I guess I’m just looking for some reassurance that this is just a fase and I’ll get through it :).

I don’t want to keep bothering folks on the forums with simple stuff like this.
I think it would be ok though

Is it just a matter of getting into the vvvv paradigm ?
As far as I can tell: yes

Did I miss something in the tutorials?
you definitely should have a look at this:
Converting from Textual Programming
Creating Feedback Loops

Did everybody have to go through this learning curve?
I don´t know

use a switch for instance:
IF the switch receives a “1” , THEN the descending flow is activated…
or use the compare nodes like > , = , >= … or booleans…

and yes, there is a learning curve, especially with vertex/pixel shaders.
don’t panic, you’ll manage to get it done

and IF you’re ready for more brain-bending ifthenity, THEN try the automata node.

Thanks for the replies, I’m still not there, but getting closer.

I’ve created an automata node and quickly deleted it and decided I’m not ready for that one yet :).Thanks for the encouraging words, I was playing around with 4v for 5 hours or so and I got a little discouraged… after some sleep I felt alot better.

Actually the pixel shaders were really easy to get into in my experience, for the first weeks I was trying to do everything through pixel shaders as those are easy to understand from a traditional programming view.

I’m really looking forward to getting over these beginner humps so I can properly incorporate 4v in my vj work … altough something this cool couldn’t really be called work could it?

Oh and sorry for putting this in the wrong forum, I suppose I should’ve posted it in the patching help forum.