ok, good point gab. but it just won’t work like this. when you change the input on a patch the value in the subpatch doesn’t really change and therefore cannot be saved. the value changes only in the parentpatch, ie. in the patch in which you see the pin.

so i would suggest having the color-iobox in your main patch and save values with keymaker from there. thus not connecting it to your subpatch but linking keymaker to the patchdescription of your main patch using PatchAlias (VVVV ActivePatch) . see?

ok thx then I’'ll do it as you said