IT WORKS!!! Thank you Elias! It wasn’t exactly what you suggested, but you gave me the right hint: I don’t have the addonpack installed (yet) and I didn’t rename the folder freeframe to freeframe_disabled, because there simply was no such folder. However there was one called freeframes (plural), which I renamed to freeframe, and now it works. Seems like that little s caused all the trouble. Though that makes me wonder how it can work for some users and for others it doesn’t (?)
Anyway, I can finally start exploring vvvv. Thanks a lot!
argh, i had a typo, the folders are called freeframes.
what you did is exactly what i proposed, you renamed the folder to something different than vvvv expects it to be and therefor doesn’t load the *.dll files in there. you won’t have any freeframe nodes. you can check by typing “f” and a space in the node browser.
the dlls in the freeframes directory have certain runtime dependencies. my guess for all your troubles is that you have a program installed on your machines which delivers the same dependencies and added them to your PATH environment variable. the newest alpha build you can download will now prepend (instead of append) the search directories vvvv needs to the PATH environment variable of the vvvv process. it won’t touch your PATH environment variable at all, it will only modifiy its private copy of it.
that way windows should pick up the right dependencies.
so do us the favor and try with the latest x86 alpha build and see if it works.
Ok, cheered too soon.
I downloaded the new alpha build (28.5). crack.exe told me to install Visual C++ Runtime 2008 & 2010. Both had actually already been installed. Reinstalled them, 2010 is ok now though it still tells me to install C++ Runtime 2008. Seems to work anyway.
Is a new beta or even stable coming anytime soon?
Btw: Reinstallations didn’t change behaviour of 28.1 beta.
it just happened that left the version 28.1 beta … I usually format the cpu when comes a new version … after all updates, upgrades made ran the crack … beauty who not only ran the vvvv for the first time … installed a pack with 10 dingbats … vvvv.exe froze when I ran the … installed and uninstalled anything … then installed on another notbook with system fonts only worked … uninstalled font pack the other cpu work on time … most do not know your case … downloaded dafont.com…
I uninstalled all dingbats fonts I had - didn’t solve it. Though I have hundreds of fonts from Adobe and others and I won’t go through all of them. Guess I’ll give up on vvvv now, as in the meantime I started using PD and Processing, which both work fine without any problems.
for those who also don’t get vvvv to work: try PD for professional audio programming and Processing for multimedia stuff!
To all those who tried to help: Thanks for your patience.
@sternmull in case you’re still reading:
thanks for your patience but still your reports are a bit confusing.
we’d really like to get this sorted, but would need more specific informations from your tests.
so we understand that you tried beta28.1 and it freezes. ok.
it seems that when you renamed the \freeframes directory of beta28.1 it was able to start. can you confirm this?
then you said you downloaded the latest 64bit alpha where crack was reporting wrongly missing VC++2008 runtimes but it still worked for you. can you confirm this?
if that worked, then why give up? thats most likely what you want.
but still:
then you said you downloaded the latest 32bit alpha and it crashed again!? this we cannot believe. please do us a favour get the latest 32bit alpha again, try and report your finding on this.
still: have you unzipped using 7zip? (the rights-problem is not user-visible and only expresses in errors like the one you posted). so make sure you try that.
WOW! unzipped using 7zip and it works!
What kind of rights you talking about? I tried to manually add the “Full Access” for “All” (include sub elements) and it did not work…
very strange…maybe then it’s better to use the 7z archive instead of zip
i have the same problem as sternmull… after i installed pure-data extended (pd-extended 0.43), vvvv doesn’t start anymore. bevor that it worked great…and it is working when i rename the freeframes folder…
has anybody an idea?
qoooh, very strange, but please try with latest alpha. run crack.exe from there again and you probably have to install some more dependencies. hope that helps.
Thanks joreg! i’m on windows 7 x64 by the way…i tried the alpha builds 32bit and 64bit - 32bit still crashes, the 64 bit alpha version opens but crashes when i want to create an object…
but i figured out, that the 64bit beta version is working (i haven’t tried it before, sorry).
but still it seems that you can’t use the freeframes nodes in vvvv after installing pd.
