hei eno, thanks for your elaborate answer and analysis. good to hear that we could get you hooked. i’d be curious to hear your feedback on including [https://discourse.vvvv.org/t/vl-custom-dynamic-buffer/15703|dynamic buffers in vl] in your workflow as i’d suspect using those you can go a great deal further than only doing “business-logic” in vl and also “create content” as you put it in #6 above.
and then also please note that we’ve finally added PinEditors in latest alphas, which addresses one of your concerns regarding vl’s usability.
and then regarding your last post:
this is why we’re putting so much energy at the moment into getting writing nodes and using libraries with vl right to provide a comfortable environment for contributing developers.
now excuse me for picking to going into detail with only a few of the other things said above:
reading concerns like these…
…is understandable because it must be really hard to see from a pure user perspective yet. we know that the convincing demos are not there yet. i wrote a new introduction to vl for vvvv users in the graybook that hopefully clarifies our perspective a bit. as with the same named workshop at node17 it is exactly part of our strategy to pick people up where they are with vvvv and help them understand how they can solve their vvvv problems in vl (and then so much more…). please ask your specific questions!
then regarding:
i’m glad eno found the words that we apparently didn’t yet find
finally, we often get the request for talking more about what we do at the moment and what we’re planning for the future. just to make sure everyone is aware of our devvv blog and monthly recaps where we already try to be quite open about things. i definitely see room for improvement in that regard myself and hope to be able to go about that soon.